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RPicard · 12-07-2009, 04:09 AM

(12-07-2009, 12:05 AM)Omniscient Wrote: What is a demon? It can be defined in various ways and each person may have a different meaning. Also what harm does it do for a person to believe in the Christian demonic demon from hell? If they are semi-sane and don't hurt other people they can believe whatever they want imho. I would just nod my head at the person.

That's true. But I still get annoyed by it.

Canoris · (This post was last modified: 12-09-2009, 05:11 AM by Canoris.)

(11-07-2009, 04:08 PM)Socrates Wrote: Ok so I had a conversation with my mom, grandmother and brother about sleep paralysis,depression and schizophrenia. They said (they are Christians) that people do have weird stuff in sleep paralysis happen to them, Including demons, aliens or just seeing stuff. My grandmother told me that she has seen a demon. One taking psychology I was about to say you need a doctor lmfao . But it is weird since they are all religious to say they believe these accusations. Myself being atheist or partially not sure, thought they were all insane. Think about it,if someone was sleep and woke up but couldn't move and said they saw demons, or anything else, what would you say? Most rational thinkers would wonder. My grandmother also claims, she has suffered from sleep paralysis and seen stuff. My mother says she knows people know in the army who suffer from it. Now the weirdest part was when she told me when I was little I would wake up screaming, and for a while they didn't know why. Supposedly I saw stuff and she took me to a bishop and he prayed for me. Now those episodes are gone. But i can't remember that I was like 6. I believe it's all about what you let enter your mind. So I guess Im asking what do you believe? Lmfao im only 16 if some of you are wondering.

If you want a more detailed explanation, PM me; but I do believe in angels and demons, partially the reason why I am a Christian. I have seen both sides of the fence. As far as sleep paralysis, I think it is a spirit. Although I will say it nothing like the way movies put it.

(12-07-2009, 12:05 AM)Omniscient Wrote: What is a demon? It can be defined in various ways and each person may have a different meaning. Also what harm does it do for a person to believe in the Christian demonic demon from hell? If they are semi-sane and don't hurt other people they can believe whatever they want imho. I would just nod my head at the person.

No quite simply a demon is the fallen spirit damned from the heavenly firmaments. The "fallen angels". Although they are more powerful then us in the flesh; they are nothing with the spirit of the Lord.

Also, you spelled "belive" wrong.... "believe".........

Socrates · 12-09-2009, 07:18 AM

I just can't, thinking rationally believe this.

Canoris · 12-09-2009, 03:44 PM

(12-09-2009, 07:18 AM)Socrates Wrote: I just can't, thinking rationally believe this.

Well, think about this:
Everyday technology is advancing more and more rapidly; most would agree that we do not know everything that we can prove scientifically. The way I see it, the spirit exists; but we cannot YET prove it with science for the lack of technology and missing concepts not yet discovered. So to think about it rationally without experiencing it is not logical if you think about it. I have experienced these things; so to tell any different I'll quite simply chuckle and say "Sure.". Even now though they are starting to discover signs of the possible spirit, although crude the experimentation at this point, I think they will be able to prove it in the far future; assuming we're still around. The stupidest phrase from the stupidest song; however true in this instance:
"Don't knock it 'till you try it."

Socrates · (This post was last modified: 12-09-2009, 04:28 PM by Socrates.)

I agree to an extent,but from someone who is taking psychology in class we learn most people like this are schizophrenic. Well if you are talking to the spirits, ghost, demons,god, angels, Satan etc. If you claim to see this you are hallucinating and need to be medicated thats my opinion. No offense to anyone.

Canoris · 12-09-2009, 04:57 PM

(12-09-2009, 04:28 PM)Socrates Wrote: I agree to an extent,but from someone who is taking psychology in class we learn most people like this are schizophrenic. Well if you are talking to the spirits, ghost, demons,god, angels, Satan etc. If you claim to see this you are hallucinating and need to be medicated thats my opinion. No offense to anyone.

And by profession that's how it needs to be interpreted; but let me tell for a fact: people love to write someone off just because they do not understand what it is that really happening or the person is going through. Any farther on the topic would be fringing the edge of the existence of God; which I am sure you all do not want to discuss.

Tim · 12-09-2009, 05:11 PM

(12-05-2009, 11:42 PM)Socrates Wrote: Why do you doubt there intelligence tim? If they are real they are superior in knowledge to us. Think about how far they more then likely are from us. They would have to be advanced enough to fly(jump) in space. As they do in startrech and starwars. Jump in space. Maybe they can to. Thats the best way scientists hypothesize they got here. And the theory fits.

I can hardly understand your disjointed English but if I understand correctly then you are saying that they would have to be intelligent to get here and visit us.

Well I never said that they actually visited us, I doubt there have ever been any legitimate UFO sightings, however I believe it is highly likely that there is life (aka. Aliens) in existence somewhere in the universe.

Socrates · 12-09-2009, 05:32 PM

My English isn't disjointed.

Tim · 12-09-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote: As they do in startrech and starwars. Jump in space. Maybe they can to. Thats the best way scientists hypothesize they got here. And the theory fits.

Is disjointed. Either that your your English teacher is an alien.

Socrates · 12-09-2009, 07:28 PM

Screw you Tim dead serious.

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