Spanking children as a means of discipline.

[Grizzly]

I don't necessarily think it's a good method of discipline. You are just installing COMPLETELY incorrect values in the minds of innocent children.

Ahh yes, who are you to tell me what values are wrong? They are my children, and I'll be damned if I allow anyone tell me how to raise them.

Spanking;; Yum.

Norly, I think, within reason its upto the parents - If they think it's called for then..I guess it is.
They know their children better than anyone else.

But then there's cases where they abuse them so..
Its hard to come up with a conclusion.

I agree. Parents know their children, and know what works. I've tried everything with my daughter. I know what works. Sometimes she can do with a talking to, sometimes she needs some timeout, some times she needs to loose something for a day or two, or a week. Sometimes I need to spank her. 3 times, on the butt, with an open hand. Never out of anger, I've walked away instead of punishing her several times, because you should never discipline your kid out of anger, that's where the abuse starts coming into play.

There is no gray area as far as the law is concerned, however, according to my morals and values, there is. Texas allows you to use physical discipline as long as there are no marks left over an extended period of time. I agree with DAMINK, if they can feel it more than 2 mins later (more than a slight sting) than it was too hard. That's why I always asked my daughter a few minutes later if she could still feel it, it allows me gauge how hard is too hard. Again, out of anger is wrong. You will hit harder and more times than you really should/mean to.