01-19-2012, 05:29 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2012, 05:31 AM by AceInfinity.)
(01-19-2012, 05:15 AM)Fragma Wrote: But then how is it Dubstep? Because it has some wobble effects in it? Compare the Skrillex song in this thread to this song by Benga & Coki which was actually the song that started the whole Dubstep movement:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMR5K2QWfJk[/youtube]
They're nothing alike. If Skrillex is far from being Electro, then he's even farther from being Dubstep.
(01-19-2012, 05:04 AM)AceInfinity Wrote: I would agree to some point, but Skrillex is still an extreme version of dubstep, genre's DO evolve, they don't always stay the same. Look at how rock has progressed from the 50's. Now it's split into many categories of a similar genre. There's a few other good dubstep creators that I know of that most don't, but there's not a single specific style of dubstep that everyone has to abide by.That can be said for all music though. The point I'm making is the way he structures his songs doesn't fit with the Dubstep "criteria".. So it's like it's evolved, and then became a genre of its own.. Check out the comparison above again.. There are no similarities what so ever, so how can both be called Dubstep?
It actually all started with a guy called Rusko who, for a joke, decided to introduce wobbles and crazy drops into your standard dubstep songs. He's apologised for doing this because he didn't think people would take him seriously and that it would catch on.. That created a sub-genre which people called Brostep... And now you have idiots like Skrillex who have taken it yet again, a step too far.. I don't care if people like Skrillex, they can like who they want to like, it doesn't bother me, but for Skrillex to be put into the Dubstep genre is insulting...
Of course they don't sound alike, but that doesn't mean one or the other can't be classified within the same genre. If you have ever heard beginning hardstyle music, I see the same trend here, "dumbed" down music which eventually acquired a more "full" taste. Not that the older stuff is always worse than the newer or more developed stuff, but music always evolves. If you want I can show you the same for Rock, Hardstyle, and even Industrial music. I've heard it all.
Take a deeper listen to the sounds in the background of that music, someone obviously played around with it a bit, and decided which sounds sounded best at their fullest frequencies, and it changed into what we now view as skrillex dubstep.
Personally I don't really see "criteria" for dubstep though, it's a creative genre. As with the same in hardstyle, you've got hard kicks, but the creativity if you've heard lots of hardstyle does change drastically.
Take Trance, and Psytrance as another example, Psytrance is still trance, but a more developed category on it's own. That's what this concept is here with skrillex and trying to classify him out of dubstep.
If it's just out of respect for the older people that you enjoy then I can understand, but music does evolve, and I would still personally consider skrillex dubstep. It's similar rythm and structure to the video you provided as an example, just utilizing a wider variety of sounds. But that's the way every music genre is, no sound is supposed to be the same, just the structure of the piece put together in the end
From the video that i've posted above:
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKMBSk4zyS0[/yt]
These guys are a dubstep style of their own as well taken from an old beginning uprising of the dubstep genre, people always take one idea and add onto it though, so if that's the case, and it's what skrillex did, then how can he not be dubstep?