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I'm fed up of the System - Zeon - 11-30-2010
I've had enough of this crap. I'm fed up of people trampling each other to get somewhere in life, I'm fed up of seeing people get exploited in the name of money, I'm fed up of seeing endless people getting killed in imperialist wars. I get awfully depressed that we life in such an awful world, and I feel impotent that I can't do anything to change it... It's just not fair. Me and my classmates are constantly bombarded with anti-socialist propaganda that glorifies the System and harshly criticises socialism. I can see through it but less intelligent class members will not be able to do so. It's sickening to see that the people that write books have nothing better to do than brainwash children so that they grow up they will support capitalism... I want to be able to change the world, but I know that we are few... endless peopele have already been brainwashed.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - NinJa_12 - 12-01-2010
i hear ya bro,it is avery dangerous and provokative world that we live in.sometimes it just makes me sick to the stomach.Just full of propaganda and wanting people to believe everything they say.A blanket of lies and bullcrap to duisguise the world we really live in,full of money hungry powers that may be just controlling everything for us.At the same time i believe that people should be strong enough to believe what they want to believe and see the truth for what it really is..............
PeAz my friend
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Omniscient - 12-01-2010
Powerful emotions. Life isn't fair and there is really nothing you can do to change that. Every system in the world has made this attempt at fairness but it's a fantasy more than a reality. That's because fairness is based on an individuals opinion. What one person believes is fair may be an injustice to another. That's how it goes.
Capitalism wasn't designed to be fair. And socialism has always proven to fail because you cannot expect the ambitious of the world to support the lazy. Communism and socialism probably have a place in this world but so does capitalism.
As a race (humans) our civilization is still very new. It's realistically only about 30,000 years old.
The oldest known culture is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte_Chico_civilization
Maybe I'm getting off-topic but imho when you view the bigger picture it helps to realize that todays problems are minor and in 20,000 years might be considered insignificant.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - NinJa_12 - 12-01-2010
(12-01-2010, 11:54 AM)Omniscient Wrote: Capitalism wasn't designed to be fair. And socialism has always proven to fail because you cannot expect the ambitious of the world to support the lazy. Communism and socialism probably have a place in this world but so does capitalism.
probably could nt of said it any better than that....you seem like a very knowledgable and wise guy (not trying to earn brownie points LoL)
RE: I'm fed up of the System - haphazard - 12-01-2010
communism will never work cause people are selfish...
People will never want to work togather to acheive a single goal.
they always work for their independent selfish fucktarded goals...
Concept of sharing is unheard of in the political world...
I used to hack a blue eyed blonde haired capitalist extremist teacher
He was very rich, had everything he wanted, so I would always disrupt the class
and prove how and why socialism is the way to go; he would get so mad he would kick me out of class and make me call home =/
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Omniscient - 12-01-2010
When people do good, share, or are charitable it should be because that's who they are. Not because their government tells them to do it.
Zeon would you be happy if every Saturday and Sunday you were told that you had to spend the time feeding the homeless? Would you be okay with the government telling you that you could only use your computer 2 hours a day because they required you to share your time online? Honestly that's communism and exactly how it works.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Zeon - 12-02-2010
I would not mind feeding the homeless. I deny that socialism hasn't worked; it worked in the USSR and created a powerful, industrial nation in under 40 years. Omniscient, what are your political views'
RE: I'm fed up of the System - RANA - 12-02-2010
the perfect system is the balance of these two.
Not wanting the people to go feed homeless but instead getting the money soo the gov can go and feed the homeless.
both the government and the people supporting each other for the cause of supporting the weal.
When tigers hunt the strongest gets the biggest share
but when humans hunt then they give the weakest the biggest share.
This is the difference between humans and animals and that is what should be shown at every level.
When a human loses that he is no more a human and when a system loses that the system is no more for humans.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Guest - 12-02-2010
People falling victim to the allmighty Dollar Bill.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Omniscient - 12-02-2010
Quote:it worked in the USSR and created a powerful, industrial nation in under 40 years.
Are you kidding? 40 years is crap. And realistically the USSR started around 1917 so it's more like 70 years but even that is very short. \
USA founded in 1776 by declaring the Declaration of Independence from England. We're now 235 years old and #1 in the world. Something the USSR could never claim even at it's peak.
There is no long standing historical evidence that socialism or communism works well. For most of the Soviet Union it was forced down their throats. Same for Cubans. Same for Chinese. If these countries held a vote the people would kick out the communists immediately.
Iceland is supposedly the oldest current Democracy since 930 AD. And the theory of Democracy began in 40BC and has been successful in many forms and long lasting empires.
Communism is an ideal more than a functional system of government.