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RE: I'm fed up of the System - Zeon - 12-03-2010
No, the USSR was already a super power by 1940. Also, the people in Cuba love their system. I recommend that you read this article which debunks many myths: http://www.quaylargo.com/Productions/McCelvey.html as well as my own thread at HF: http://www.hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=608831 regarding Cuba. Democracy is too slow for my liking; it never gets anything done.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Kate - 12-04-2010
Communism is an ideal more than a functional system of government.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Zeon - 12-04-2010
Kate, please read my above post before making such a statement.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - null_trace18 - 12-05-2010
(12-02-2010, 06:37 PM)Omniscient Wrote: Are you kidding? 40 years is crap. And realistically the USSR started around 1917 so it's more like 70 years but even that is very short. \Wasn't communism supposed to be a good thing, the only reason it hasn't worked is because the political leaders were corrupt. They gain too much power and start taking advantage of the economy. It was supposed to be an equal economy, no filthy rich and no obscenely poor either. No market collapse and such. Although communism may have not been the best idea, it still helped many countries. For instance my country Romania was much richer when it was under communist rule. Now it's not nearly as rich as it once was.
USA founded in 1776 by declaring the Declaration of Independence from England. We're now 235 years old and #1 in the world. Something the USSR could never claim even at it's peak.
There is no long standing historical evidence that socialism or communism works well. For most of the Soviet Union it was forced down their throats. Same for Cubans. Same for Chinese. If these countries held a vote the people would kick out the communists immediately.
Iceland is supposedly the oldest current Democracy since 930 AD. And the theory of Democracy began in 40BC and has been successful in many forms and long lasting empires.
Communism is an ideal more than a functional system of government.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Chimi - 12-06-2010
Seems as though you are fed up. I feel the same sometimes.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Zeon - 12-06-2010
(12-05-2010, 11:50 PM)null_trace18 Wrote: Wasn't communism supposed to be a good thing, the only reason it hasn't worked is because the political leaders were corrupt. They gain too much power and start taking advantage of the economy. It was supposed to be an equal economy, no filthy rich and no obscenely poor either. No market collapse and such. Although communism may have not been the best idea, it still helped many countries. For instance my country Romania was much richer when it was under communist rule. Now it's not nearly as rich as it once was.
Some political leaders are corrupt, not all. And yes, all the ex-Communist countries are much poorer now that they were under Communism.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - null_trace18 - 12-06-2010
(12-06-2010, 02:23 PM)Zeon Wrote:Yea, there were a couple of good leaders, but it has failed to work as a Government, at least a popular one. If only the people would have chosen good people who can be incorruptible, they would have great nations. Someone like JFK or FDR, would probably have been great at being leaders for their nations. But they always chose the one with most "benefits" and basically got bribed or cheated in power. Just my opinion.
Some political leaders are corrupt, not all. And yes, all the ex-Communist countries are much poorer now that they were under Communism.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Zeon - 12-06-2010
JFK was an idiot in my eyes, but I greatly admire Roosevelt.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - null_trace18 - 12-07-2010
(12-06-2010, 04:11 PM)Zeon Wrote: JFK was an idiot in my eyes, but I greatly admire Roosevelt.Yea, well at least he didn't screw crap up like the presidents from these days do. Bush IMO was one of the worst presidents ever, in his last 4 years. His first 4 were mediocre. As for Obama, lets hope he can sit on his hands and not screw up crap even more than he already has.
RE: I'm fed up of the System - Zeon - 12-07-2010
I'm fed up of learning crap about FDR, like he never got the US out of the depression. fudge Republican textbooks.