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(04-21-2011, 06:26 AM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]Ok so you're saying that if you went up to a female teacher and told her ,her hair was hott or sexy it wouldn't warrant different consequences as you telling her it was cute.

Wow... you really just don't get the point of what I was trying to say do you? The meaning of the word will still stay the SAME for the person saying it, however to the teacher, she/he will obviously have a different perspective on the word that he or she got complimented with. For some they would think that "hot" is a derogratory term, and for some, they like it. But for the person saying the word in the first place, it would be different than the person recieving the word through speach. I don't know how much clearer I have to explain that to you. My response had nothing to do with the definition of the word, but I was trying to state the concept that the meaning of the word on a personal level is different for everyone to their own self.

(04-21-2011, 06:26 AM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]The English language is an amazing thing, for instance if I call you a menace I don't have to also say you're being annoying because that word is apart of the definition of menace.

No, your completely wrong there, the definition of menace has nothing to do with being annoying.

Menace - Act in a threatening manner; "A menacing person"

(04-21-2011, 06:26 AM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]So, when you say something is hot or sexy you don't have to say you were sexually aroused because it's implied by the used word's definition.

Here again you are trying to debate something with me with irrelevant evidence against my response. Back to the base of the thread, you said people have trouble distinguishing Hot/Sexy from Cute... How are you supposed to know how other people think in order to make that statement. Just because a girl is really really pretty, does not mean people think that she is hot. She could be really pretty but someone could still think of her as cute. To add onto that, it's the same thing with sexual arousel, how would you assume that the people who defined the girls depicted within this thread as cute have the definition of "Hot" or "Sexy" in their mind. What if they do not "like" that specific girl to that extent?

(04-21-2011, 06:26 AM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]Different things can indeed mean different things to different people but when you're on neutral ground the general definitions is given automatically for words.

What does the average meaning of a word have as an effect on people when they say it though? Nothing really. People will still say their words to others with the idea of a specific meaning of their own when it's used. Lets look at a common example... "I would like to go out with you"... Depending on the way it's said and the way the person hearing those words interprets it, it could mean (more specifically) "I would like to go on a date with you", or it could mean "Do you want to go somewhere and hang out" (as friends). For even singular words, the word "N*gger" for some means nothing, since in history it's only defined as a bad word now because of the way it was used, which had changed the meaning for some. And for others that word is extremely offensive. The definition stays the same like you keep trying to tell me, but the actual definition means nothing in comparison to the definition that comes from the way it's interpretted.

(04-21-2011, 06:26 AM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]To a friend or at home you can say bitch as an affectionate term, but you can't go out and start calling people bitch because quite frankly in a general sense that word has it's own denotation from what you may have implied.

This was my whole point, but you're not understanding it with the examples of "Cute," "Hot," and "Sexy."

Even for some "friends" it can be offensive, but for others, if they have heard it enough times it becomes meaningless. For english enthusiasts it wouldn't mean anything because they would think you are trying to call them a female dog. While for some, the word basically would mean "Mean" or something as far down as "Whore" or "Slut".

Try reviewing this post this time, to really get what i'm trying to say..

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(04-21-2011, 06:50 AM)Scalise Wrote: [ -> ]lol what have i done...

I consider hot my 1 night stand and then cute is the girl I like to be around and would end up dating. The one I don't want to just get into their pants, lol.

I don't call people I don't know cute.

I'm sure some people date people because they are attracted to their physical appeal though. You know it from the movies because it's a cliche version of some individuals lives. They end up with a real "bitchy" girlfriend, but they are also really "hot" as you say lol. The reason they don't break up though lies in the answer of a 3 letter word.

I'm also sure that you've heard people say things like "oh, she's cute!" to a person they don't really know. Just not straight up front to the person, meaning it's from a magazine, or your with one of your best friends and you whisper it to them instead.

Of course people date for physical appearances, because that's the first thing that gets you to notice them. I mean, sure it shouldn't be the sole reason but it's certainly a large part of it, whether people like it or not.

And when you see somebody and say they're cute you don't actually mean it, as you said yourself it's never straight to the person's face, but to a friend to suggest interest in the individual.

I don't know why this is getting all technical it's completely opinionated hahah

(04-21-2011, 04:02 PM)Scalise Wrote: [ -> ]Of course people date for physical appearances, because that's the first thing that gets you to notice them. I mean, sure it shouldn't be the sole reason but it's certainly a large part of it, whether people like it or not.

That's true, mostly because that's the initial way of getting to know someone first. Once you like their look, your more interested in getting to know the person on a deeper level.

(04-21-2011, 04:02 PM)Scalise Wrote: [ -> ]And when you see somebody and say they're cute you don't actually mean it, as you said yourself it's never straight to the person's face, but to a friend to suggest interest in the individual.

Misonception: Just because you don't say it to their face doesn't mean that you don't mean it. I mean it when I tell my friends that I see a cute girl somewhere lol, and it doesn't have to be to the persons face to make it a truth.

I only say cute to a girls face, or like when somebody is hooking me up with somebody, I'll be like, "Oh, she seems cute"

I don't know, haha I'm weird.

(04-21-2011, 04:22 PM)Scalise Wrote: [ -> ]I'll be like, "Oh, she seems cute"

That would be the same as not saying it to her face then lol. But you still meant it, (lets hope). The way you quotted it made me infer that you didn't say it directly to her face.

"She seems cute" instead of "You seem cute"...

That oh she seems cute was like, buddy talk.

If I'm talking to a girl and I say it to her face I'd hope it means more to her. I sort of reserve it and try to keep it valuable. I don't go throwing it around.

(04-21-2011, 02:31 PM)Infinity Wrote: [ -> ]Wow... you really just don't get the point of what I was trying to say do you? The meaning of the word will still stay the SAME for the person saying it, however to the teacher, she/he will obviously have a different perspective on the word that he or she got complimented with. For some they would think that "hot" is a derogratory term, and for some, they like it. But for the person saying the word in the first place, it would be different than the person recieving the word through speach. I don't know how much clearer I have to explain that to you. My response had nothing to do with the definition of the word, but I was trying to state the concept that the meaning of the word on a personal level is different for everyone to their own self.

(04-21-2011, 06:26 AM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]The English language is an amazing thing, for instance if I call you a menace I don't have to also say you're being annoying because that word is apart of the definition of menace.

No, your completely wrong there, the definition of menace has nothing to do with being annoying.

Menace - Act in a threatening manner; "A menacing person"

(04-21-2011, 06:26 AM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]So, when you say something is hot or sexy you don't have to say you were sexually aroused because it's implied by the used word's definition.

Here again you are trying to debate something with me with irrelevant evidence against my response. Back to the base of the thread, you said people have trouble distinguishing Hot/Sexy from Cute... How are you supposed to know how other people think in order to make that statement. Just because a girl is really really pretty, does not mean people think that she is hot. She could be really pretty but someone could still think of her as cute. To add onto that, it's the same thing with sexual arousel, how would you assume that the people who defined the girls depicted within this thread as cute have the definition of "Hot" or "Sexy" in their mind. What if they do not "like" that specific girl to that extent?

What does the average meaning of a word have as an effect on people when they say it though? Nothing really. People will still say their words to others with the idea of a specific meaning of their own when it's used. Lets look at a common example... "I would like to go out with you"... Depending on the way it's said and the way the person hearing those words interprets it, it could mean (more specifically) "I would like to go on a date with you", or it could mean "Do you want to go somewhere and hang out" (as friends). For even singular words, the word "N*gger" for some means nothing, since in history it's only defined as a bad word now because of the way it was used, which had changed the meaning for some. And for others that word is extremely offensive. The definition stays the same like you keep trying to tell me, but the actual definition means nothing in comparison to the definition that comes from the way it's interpretted.

(04-21-2011, 06:26 AM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]To a friend or at home you can say bitch as an affectionate term, but you can't go out and start calling people bitch because quite frankly in a general sense that word has it's own denotation from what you may have implied.

This was my whole point, but you're not understanding it with the examples of "Cute," "Hot," and "Sexy."

Even for some "friends" it can be offensive, but for others, if they have heard it enough times it becomes meaningless. For english enthusiasts it wouldn't mean anything because they would think you are trying to call them a female dog. While for some, the word basically would mean "Mean" or something as far down as "Whore" or "Slut".

Try reviewing this post this time, to really get what i'm trying to say..

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(04-21-2011, 06:50 AM)Scalise Wrote: [ -> ]lol what have i done...

I consider hot my 1 night stand and then cute is the girl I like to be around and would end up dating. The one I don't want to just get into their pants, lol.

I don't call people I don't know cute.

I'm sure some people date people because they are attracted to their physical appeal though. You know it from the movies because it's a cliche version of some individuals lives. They end up with a real "bitchy" girlfriend, but they are also really "hot" as you say lol. The reason they don't break up though lies in the answer of a 3 letter word.

I'm also sure that you've heard people say things like "oh, she's cute!" to a person they don't really know. Just not straight up front to the person, meaning it's from a magazine, or your with one of your best friends and you whisper it to them instead.

I as a female wouldn't go around calling random girls on the street hot or sexy because I know what it's denotation is. If I say "wow she's pretty" or "yeah she's cute" it's so completely different from me saying their hot or sexy. I don't think you understand what I'm saying..to me you're making no sense what so ever and you've dramatically strayed from your opening argument. So I'm done, back on topic now.

(04-21-2011, 05:49 PM)Mandy Wrote: [ -> ]I as a female wouldn't go around calling random girls on the street hot or sexy because I know what it's denotation is. If I say "wow she's pretty" or "yeah she's cute" it's so completely different from me saying their hot or sexy. I don't think you understand what I'm saying..to me you're making no sense what so ever and you've dramatically strayed from your opening argument. So I'm done, back on topic now.

I haven't went off topic from anything, but I bet you didn't even bother to read what I wrote because you like to think you're right. I'm trying to explain myself with an open opinion, but so far my view still stands. I've seen lots of straight girls call other girls "hot" before because i'm sure they know that they would be considered "hot" to most guys, which makes that appropriate. I don't see a substitute for that as being "cute" instead, so it should be acceptable to say it.

I think others understand what i'm trying to say, and your proving my point as well by your statement:

Quote:I as a female wouldn't go around calling random girls on the street hot or sexy because I know what it's denotation is

Like I said, for others who don't take it as a big deal and as literate as you do, it would not mean the same, regardless of how YOU view the word. Look at it that way. If you don't get what i'm trying to say by now I'll be honest, I feel like i'm talking to a deaf person, or in this case someone who can't read. No offense.

#1 & #2 are the hottest.

#2 is cutest =)